noor at September 4th, 2004 22:20 — #1
that is what happens when you ask Bush a question he hasn't coached on.
anubis at September 4th, 2004 22:37 — #2
i love that one... i do wonder though why the interviewers always let him of the hook so fast (you can't see it here but he doesn't go after him).
snprbob86 at September 4th, 2004 22:44 — #3
hahaha good stuff...
it nearly makes me cry to see a man that dumb make it that far
anubis at September 4th, 2004 22:45 — #4
i saw another good one on a postcard today
some people talk about federal welfare as if it was some kind of federal program.
nomadrock at September 4th, 2004 23:03 — #5
Ok. Maybe it's just me, but I would expect everyone there to know exactly what sovereign to mean. If you think in this context, though he did blunder a bit, his response seems entirely realistic. The problem is that the question is idiotic. What he is saying is that it doesn't really matter that whether the other nation is tribal or not, only whether it is sovereign. If we assume that it is in fact sovereign, then it is just the normal situation between two sovereign nations. The question has no content for anyone even remotely familiar with foreign policy. Someone could have gone into an elaborate answer about how tribal governments work and how this is not different at the surface from how other governments work, and this would have impressed the uneducated masses, educated people should not be more impressed by that kind of a statement than the one Bush gave except for the fact that he tripped on his words. It has long been known that he is not a good public speaker but that hardly means alone that he is unqualified to make the decisions about our country.
Now, I am not a Bush fan, but I dislike it when people bash anyone unjustly.
Personally I am voting for the Green party.
mihail121 at September 5th, 2004 02:04 — #6
Oh come on... you can't juse put a cowboy without the knowledge to propertly tie his showes at the president-post of a country! But if you do... than USA is what you'll get...
nomadrock at September 5th, 2004 02:09 — #7
baldurk at September 5th, 2004 03:12 — #8
Grow up. [snapback]10524[/snapback]
mihail121 at September 5th, 2004 07:12 — #9
Again, we have a missunderstanding here.... Perhaps you US people that post here and the other's that dont, manage to stay untouched from propaganda and dumb politics but you can't deny that most of the USA is: stupid fat people, dumb president and dumb candidates for this post that are mainly interested in making a fortune and cheap oil prices so they can get another \~3 years of power!
Don't you see that each american president from the near past has started a war conflict in the middle east one year before the votes?
thenut at September 5th, 2004 08:57 — #10
Hehe, pretty funny. I just watched Fahrenheit 9/11 the other day too. Constant Bush Bash for the past 24 hours =P
I don't know Bush personally, but I do know he lacks communication skills. The speeches he regurgitates generally come out ok, but I notice when he wants to add on the spot "you know… it's like… you know what I mean, when…." then he tends to dig his own grave. Nothing a little practice in front of the mirror wouldn't fix.
North of the border, I don't think anyone can beat our Chrétien's record. He was truly nutty.
anubis at September 5th, 2004 08:58 — #11
NomadRock : nader ! nader ! nader ! :lol: ... but seriously : :yes: keep it up. sadly there are not many people in the states who vote green...
as to the video... i think the question included a few more things like kids not learning about tribal governments in school though they are part of their own country and how to resolve issues between tribes and the federal government. but even if it was a stupid question he could have elaborated on that rather than mumbling something that makes no sense at all.
anyway, it's not true that bush only stumbles on his words. this is only one random example picked out of so many that people wrote books about it. personally i have no doubt that he is either dyslexic or boozed his brain to jelly.
mihail : though i agree with you partly (amrica did start many wars in the last decades [so did the soviet union] and somehow many of the people here are in fact are more than a little overweight) i think you should try to provide a few arguements that can be discussed rather than just saying : "can't you see... they are stupid"
anubis at September 5th, 2004 09:06 — #12
The speeches he regurgitates generally come out ok
yes, because somebody else wrote them. i know very well that every speach is written beforehand but you can demand from a president that he can freely talk about matters of politics in public
Nothing a little practice in front of the mirror wouldn't fix
if that was true for him i think somebody in the white house would have thought of giving him lessons in free speech in the past 4 years, don't you ?
thenut at September 5th, 2004 10:07 — #13
i think somebody in the white house would have thought of giving him lessons in free speech in the past 4 years
- I'm sure his wife and daughters chuckled at him a few times for fun, and I'm certain he's well aware of his own public speaking problems, however it's evident he doesn't care because in the last 4 years it would have been something he looked at =P I'm sure he'd rather play golf then talk to himself in the mirror just like I would rather play games then make them =)
mihail121 at September 5th, 2004 10:16 — #14
I think you should try to provide a few arguements that can be discussed rather than just saying : "can't you see... they are stupid" [snapback]10537[/snapback]
How about an interview with people from Chicago i saw on the tv the last night:
-Do you know where this year's olimpic games took place?
Of course this can hardly be discussed but it's a good example of what's going on there...
The politic are another argument that can be discussed.. perhaps you've noticed that the politic of Bush is not based on anything else than two words: Peace, Terrorists. Each one of his speachs contains this words in big number of repeation.
It's like: "We'll kill the terrorists so you can continue to live in Peace so vote for me on the next ellections, ok?"
And now something quite funny (or not, depending on how you look at it). As i was checking the news today i saw those demonstrants that support Bush on that huge demonstration. With all those flags, labels, ballons, etc. it looked exactly like: "Sieg hail! Sieg hail!". So, something changed for 65 years? I don't think so...
anubis at September 5th, 2004 10:18 — #15
thenut : given thw downhill trend of his public approval you'd think one of his "advisors" would make him care about it
How about an interview with people from Chicago i saw on the tv the last night
as you are a vivid follower of german television you should know all the interviews with people on the streets of germany. the same could be done in any other country i guess...
the thing about bushes speaches is true though. i guess that is because they haven't got much positive things that happend during the last four years to brag about (none?)
mihail121 at September 5th, 2004 10:24 — #16
downhill trend might sound bad to him but it sounds worse to me... cause the other one is exactly the same type!
davepermen at September 5th, 2004 12:39 — #17
i have no clue what they talked about. but in my case, it's the language, i don't know these words (yet).
but somehow, i have the feeling, bush didn't know much more than i.. even while he understood the question....
mihail121 at September 5th, 2004 12:44 — #18
Ehm... Dave... that's what we've been discussing - not only he didn't understood the question but he is so dumb, that he can't cover himself with stuff like:
"thank you for the question..."
"i was just getting to that..."
"well it greatly depends on...."
"you see, from our view the things are not at all that simple..."
and stuff like that
davepermen at September 5th, 2004 12:47 — #19
i know. just wanted to share the fact that i feel capable of getting us president, even while i don't know at all any of the words in such questions ..
hm.. my response would've been.. "thanks for asking.. yeah, i remember the governor time... those where the days" and just drift off in memories
mihail121 at September 5th, 2004 12:59 — #20
Bah.... i only know someone will burn in hell! But it won't be me...
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